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Login problem " We detected an unusual sign-in from a device or location you don't usually use."

  • May 9, 2022
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We are a small non-profit with a Zoom Pro account that we share amongst different people.  That is, we have a number of different meetings all owned by the same Zoom account, but  different people run them and all those people have a need to log into Zoom using our one Zoom Pro account in order to run the meeting as Host..    Let's say that the one Zoom account is "***********" and note that one person only can log into that email.

 

Today, for the first time, someone got the message, "We detected an unusual sign-in from a device or location you don't usually use. If this was you, enter the code below to sign in to Zoom"  and, of course, Zoom sent the code to *********** but the person running the meeting was not the person who has access to the email!

 

You see the problem.  How can we turn off that security email?  I am aware that if we enable 2 Factor Authentication the verification email will not be used - but I don't think that solves our problem because each of the people who might need to run the meeting has to have access to that same 2FA SMS phone number or authenticator - so 2FA isn't going to work either.

 

We want to turn off that security email.  How can we do it?  This is a big issue for use as you can imagine.

    Best answer by NSCT

    This is an old thread, but I just found out that zoom now allows us to disable the one time passcode. It's described here:

    https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article?id=zm_kb&sysparm_article=KB0058046

     

    Has anyone done this? If so how is it working? 

     

    21 replies

    Newcomer
    May 9, 2022

    We experienced that very same problem this past Saturday. Our set up is similar and if I hadn't been available our meeting would not have happened. We also want to know how to turn off this setting.

    Newcomer
    May 10, 2022

     

    Trainer1
    Observer
     

    ‎2022-05-10 07:17 AM

    I've been having the same issue

     

    You need to disable the Personal Room passcode as his instructions below

    This has fixed the issue for me 

     

     

     

    JulianH said....

    "My issue was initially due to an integration with a new CRM. I worked with the support team at Zoom and they were able to resolve it. It took some troubleshooting, but everything has been working perfectly for the past 3 months. I have the communication threads saved. I believe this is what ultimately fixed the issue: 

     

    Can you please go to this link https://us02web.zoom.us/profile/setting and disable Personal Meeting ID (PMI) Passcode. Also, disable the same feature on this link https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting#/pmi/9254513183.  
    Once done, you may lock the setting under your account settings - https://us02web.zoom.us/account/setting and then logout and log back in to your zoom app, calendar integrations and 17hats as well.

    Newcomer
    May 9, 2022

    Unfortunately, we also have this problem and need a way to switch it off as soon as possible. We use multiple accounts and require this feature to be turned off on all accounts.

     

    Ask for a quick answer

     

    Thank you very much...

    Newcomer
    May 10, 2022

    I've been having the same issue

     

    You need to disable the Personal Room passcode as his instructions below

    This has fixed the issue for me 

     

     

     

    JulianH said....

    "My issue was initially due to an integration with a new CRM. I worked with the support team at Zoom and they were able to resolve it. It took some troubleshooting, but everything has been working perfectly for the past 3 months. I have the communication threads saved. I believe this is what ultimately fixed the issue: 

     

    Can you please go to this link https://us02web.zoom.us/profile/setting and disable Personal Meeting ID (PMI) Passcode. Also, disable the same feature on this link https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting#/pmi/9254513183.  
    Once done, you may lock the setting under your account settings - https://us02web.zoom.us/account/setting and then logout and log back in to your zoom app, calendar integrations and 17hats as well.

    Alex_PFT
    Partner
    Partner
    May 9, 2022

    Yes we have the same problem with several of our sub-accounts, it's a new security feature that was introduced a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately the official answer by Zoom is that account sharing is not permitted, so they will not support that, or offer a way to prevent that. If someone has a way to help with this, please share 😉 .

     

    Alex

    zoom@pft

    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 9, 2022

    Alex, do you have a link that states Zoom's position on this?

     

     

    Alex_PFT
    Partner
    Partner
    May 9, 2022
    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 9, 2022

    Thank you, Alex.  I think we're all screwed.  I don't have a decent solution to this.

    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 9, 2022

    I have a workaround that should work though I haven't really tested it enough to work out any kinks.  It's a kludge but it will work, depending on what email client you're using.  We have Gmail for Google Workspace and here's the workaround. 

     

    1.  Take a look at the screenshot I attached, it's of the authentication email Zoom sent out.

     

    2. Set up a distribution list in your email system of everyone who might need that security code.  Call it zoom-list@.......  You'll need one of these for every shared Zoom  account.  

     

    3.  Let's say your Zoom account is myzoom@.......   Log into myzoom and create a filter as follows:

    • from no-reply@........
    • subject contains "Code for signing in to Zoom"
    • forward to zoom-list@.......

    Now, whenever someone tries to log in as myzoom@..... and gets that message, Zoom will send the code to myzoom and it will be forwarded to everyone who needs it.  I said it was a kludge!

     

    Obviously, it's dependent on the specific subject line but and if they change that the filter has to change - but that's not too hard.

     

    Anyway, that's my workaround

     

    Newcomer
    May 29, 2022

    Hi,

    We are having the same problem, and I like your work around. But can't the same thing be accomplished by using the zoom account setting "Who will receive security communications from Zoom" to add additional recipients for these alerts?  Any insight about this is much appreciated!

     

    Updated 6/10/22: The setting described above to send "security communications" to additional recipients apparently doesn't include emails containing verification codes for unusual sign-ins. When I used the setting, none of the additional recipients received them.

     

    Newcomer
    May 9, 2022

    I am experiencing this exact problem as well at the moment and do not know a solution around it!  I have reached out but no response.

    Newcomer
    May 10, 2022

    I've been having the same issue

     

    You need to disable the Personal Room passcode as his instructions below

    This has fixed the issue for me 🙂

     

    JulianH said....

    "My issue was initially due to an integration with a new CRM. I worked with the support team at Zoom and they were able to resolve it. It took some troubleshooting, but everything has been working perfectly for the past 3 months. I have the communication threads saved. I believe this is what ultimately fixed the issue: 

     

    Can you please go to this link https://us02web.zoom.us/profile/setting and disable Personal Meeting ID (PMI) Passcode. Also, disable the same feature on this link https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting#/pmi/9254513183.  
    Once done, you may lock the setting under your account settings - https://us02web.zoom.us/account/setting and then logout and log back in to your zoom app, calendar integrations and 17hats as well.

     

    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 10, 2022

    Trainer1: I don't understand your second step,

    Also, disable the same feature on this link https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting#/pmi/9254513183.

    That link just takes me a to a list of all my meetings - is that supposed to be a particular meeting of yours, ie meeting id 9254513183?    When I look in one of my meetings I don't even see an option for that feature (we don't rely on personal meeting ids anyway, we always generate a new one).

     

    David

     

    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 12, 2022

    FYI, it's a complete mystery to me why Zoom decides to trigger this warning for some people but not others.  I just tried logging into Zoom using a brand new iPad which had never before logged into Zoom and I did not get the warning!  On the other had, one of my colleagues logged in using her regular device, one that she uses for Zoom at least monthly, and she did get the warning.  Makes no sense.

     

    By the way, my workaround using email forwarding does work.

     

    David

    Alex_PFT
    Partner
    Partner
    May 12, 2022

    From what we understand so far, time between connections & difference in location will trigger the code verification.

     

    Alex

    zoom@pft

    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 12, 2022

    Alex: That's what I'd think but when I tried logging in from a fresh iPad which had never before been used to log into Zoom it did not trigger the verification.  I don't understand it.

    David

    Newcomer
    May 13, 2022
     

     

    I got the following message from the support desk....

     

    Rommel Castro (Zoom)

    May 11, 2022, 0:21 GMT+1

    Hi,
     
    Thanks for the reply. Our Engineering team has disabled the One Time Pin on all accounts for now. You should now be able to login without being prompted for the One Time Pin.
     
    However, I would recommend enabling the 2FA for the account for additional security as well as our Engineering team may enable the feature again in the future as a security requirement.
     
    Note: If two-factor authentication is disabled, users with a work email login type are required to enter a time-based one-time password (OTP) sent to their email if Zoom detects an unusual login from a different country or device than normal.
     
    More information here : https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360038247071-Managing-two-factor-authentication-2FA-
     
    Thanks,
    Rommel

    Alex_PFT
    Partner
    Partner
    May 13, 2022

    I'm a bit confused about the ''one time code''. Are we still talking about the verification code? If so it's not one time at all ?!

    Also, when they say it was disable for all accounts, I guess that is in your organization, and not for ALL Zoom users? How did you get them to do that?

     

    Thanks. 

     

    Alex

    zoom@pft

     

     

    ECSBCAuthor
    Newcomer
    May 13, 2022

    I'm with you, Alex - CONFUSED.  

     

    And what does Rommel mean, "If two-factor authentication is disabled, users with a work email login type are required to enter a time-based one-time password (OTP) sent to their email if Zoom detects an unusual login from a different country or device than normal."

     

    What's a "work type login?"  Do they mean not a gmail, yahoo, outlook, etc. email?  Very confusingn.

     

    David
     

    Newcomer
    May 16, 2022

    I have had confirmation back that it is for all accounts:

     

    Message from Zoom support:

    Thanks for the reply. This is for all Accounts on Zoom. 
     
    This will also be posted on our Release notes if it will be reactivated again : https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/categories/4415113014797-Release-Notes